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		<title>By: dersichdenwolftanzt</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/18/oxygen-usability-icon-survey/#comment-3039</link>
		<dc:creator>dersichdenwolftanzt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i found this survey quite....hmmm....not soo good....

- all these "which icon is a text/spreadsheet/blabla"-questions i couldnt answer cause i wasn't able to see anything - these icons are just to small (on a 1280x1024 19'' CRT)
- i often had to make a "bad" choice in that way that i wasn't able to identify the "right" icon on a first look (as it should be IMHO), only after a careful inspection of all icons
- i found these logoff/...-icons just....XXX why three icons, which look nearly the same? horror.....

well, just my 2cent....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i found this survey quite&#8230;.hmmm&#8230;.not soo good&#8230;.</p>
<p>- all these &#8220;which icon is a text/spreadsheet/blabla&#8221;-questions i couldnt answer cause i wasn&#8217;t able to see anything - these icons are just to small (on a 1280&#215;1024 19&#8221; <span class="caps">CRT</span>)<br />
- i often had to make a &#8220;bad&#8221; choice in that way that i wasn&#8217;t able to identify the &#8220;right&#8221; icon on a first look (as it should be <span class="caps">IMHO</span>), only after a careful inspection of all icons<br />
- i found these logoff/&#8230;-icons just&#8230;.XXX why three icons, which look nearly the same? horror&#8230;..</p>
<p>well, just my 2cent&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Fab</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/18/oxygen-usability-icon-survey/#comment-3038</link>
		<dc:creator>Fab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm really sorry, but most of the time the icons DID NOT FIT ALL, at least in my understanding. Apart from the already used KDE-icons there were no good alternatives. This concerns especially the file icons which I found really unconvincing.

Please reconsider using such icons for the new KDE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really sorry, but most of the time the icons <span class="caps">DID NOT FIT ALL, </span>at least in my understanding. Apart from the already used <span class="caps">KDE</span>-icons there were no good alternatives. This concerns especially the file icons which I found really unconvincing.</p>
<p>Please reconsider using such icons for the new <span class="caps">KDE.</span></p>
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		<title>By: isi</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/18/oxygen-usability-icon-survey/#comment-3036</link>
		<dc:creator>isi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to lock the computer there should be an icon with a lock on it
and not (-). icouldnt find an icon for spreadsheet app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to lock the computer there should be an icon with a lock on it<br />
and not (-). icouldnt find an icon for spreadsheet app.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Mobil Content &#187; xmen lengends Oxygen usability icon survey</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/18/oxygen-usability-icon-survey/#comment-3030</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat Mobil Content &#187; xmen lengends Oxygen usability icon survey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] xmen lengends OpenUsability.org has prepared an icon survey about Oxygen icons. Participating will help designers to find usability issues with the icon design development. xmen official siteread more &#124; digg story [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] xmen lengends OpenUsability.org has prepared an icon survey about Oxygen icons. Participating will help designers to find usability issues with the icon design development. xmen official siteread more | digg story [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/18/oxygen-usability-icon-survey/#comment-3020</link>
		<dc:creator>Andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your MySQL server looks like it's about to choke... I keep getting WordPress database errors trying to browse the site..</description>
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		<title>By: Snazz</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/18/oxygen-usability-icon-survey/#comment-3019</link>
		<dc:creator>Snazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11. Icons 2,3,4 are all arrows pointing back. Non-KDE users don't know which icon KDE uses in it's various web-browsers. (Unless of course you wanted ppl to pick the 'best' back button?)

15, 16. Mime types icons really don't have enough contrast, they all look washed out. Even with good eyesight I needed to squint (CRT) to differentiate the icons... And I still selected the document icon (I think) for the spreadsheet icon.

Yup, other's have mentioned the need for an "I don't know" option with a text entry for the user to explain the problem. 

For instance on the CD burning question I would have picked "I don't know" and explained "None of the icons really look like a CD, or CD Burning 'thingy'"

Otherwise, a good survey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11. Icons 2,3,4 are all arrows pointing back. Non-KDE users don&#8217;t know which icon <span class="caps">KDE </span>uses in it&#8217;s various web-browsers. (Unless of course you wanted ppl to pick the &#8216;best&#8217; back button?)</p>
<p>15, 16. Mime types icons really don&#8217;t have enough contrast, they all look washed out. Even with good eyesight I needed to squint (CRT) to differentiate the icons&#8230; And I still selected the document icon (I think) for the spreadsheet icon.</p>
<p>Yup, other&#8217;s have mentioned the need for an &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221; option with a text entry for the user to explain the problem. </p>
<p>For instance on the CD burning question I would have picked &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221; and explained &#8220;None of the icons really look like a <span class="caps">CD, </span>or CD Burning &#8216;thingy&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Otherwise, a good survey.</p>
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		<title>By: Memento Diem - &#187; Oxygen usability icon survey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Memento Diem - &#187; Oxygen usability icon survey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shulai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shulai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Icons are too small and blurry even wearing glasses (that I do not use most of the time). Try them with xmag (cheater! ;-) and you realize they are close to meaningless icon gathers.
I'm not sure how useful such a survey could be when icons are so small, most of the time smaller than in any real world use (besides in some toolbars). I wasn't able to chose any spreadsheet icon, and was doubtful chosing the archive icon.

Your work is beautiful, but photorealism is not helpful at that scale, I guess some enhance filters could be useful if possible (I neither know if icons are meant always to be svg-rendered on the fly, and if such filtering facilities are available in on the fly rendering).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Icons are too small and blurry even wearing glasses (that I do not use most of the time). Try them with xmag (cheater! ;-) and you realize they are close to meaningless icon gathers.<br />
I&#8217;m not sure how useful such a survey could be when icons are so small, most of the time smaller than in any real world use (besides in some toolbars). I wasn&#8217;t able to chose any spreadsheet icon, and was doubtful chosing the archive icon.</p>
<p>Your work is beautiful, but photorealism is not helpful at that scale, I guess some enhance filters could be useful if possible (I neither know if icons are meant always to be svg-rendered on the fly, and if such filtering facilities are available in on the fly rendering).</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Knight</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/18/oxygen-usability-icon-survey/#comment-2989</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, decided to add my comments here:

Q.7 - The position of the button to open a list of all applications is a more important indicator to me than the icon used.  I expect ( based on experience with Windows, KDE and Gnome ) for the icon to be in one of the screen's corners.  In the case of Windows, the bottom-left corner.  I voted for the KDE icon purely because I prefer it aesthetically.

Q.8	(CD Burning) The first three icons clearly have nothing to do with CDs.  The last two are clearly meant as images for a CD burning program. Unfortunately the 4th icon ( red CD with flames on ) does not resemble a CD closely because of the 3D raised border.  The fifth icon ( CD with flames underneath ) is probably the best, but it is hard to make out the outline of the CD against a white background.

Q.10	 (Web Browsing Icon) I picked blue globe with no extras around  the edge.  I am really not keen on the  gear teeth around the Konqueror icon. I would prefer a larger globe, perhaps  with elements of the main KDE icon in the middle.

Q.11	I would like to see distinct colors for the Back/Forwards arrows compared to the rest of the icons which are normally positioned next to them in web browsing applications.  Green is often used as a symbolic color for going to places.  It is easier to pick out an icon like this than the current Konqueror defaults which have six icons of identical color in the main toolbar.

Q.15.  It is difficult to make out the cells in the spreadsheet icon at the small size presented.

Q.17	As per Q.15, it is difficult to identify the file-type icons at such a small size.  Perhaps better use of colour would help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, decided to add my comments here:</p>
<p><span class="caps">Q.7 </span>- The position of the button to open a list of all applications is a more important indicator to me than the icon used.  I expect ( based on experience with Windows, <span class="caps">KDE </span>and Gnome ) for the icon to be in one of the screen&#8217;s corners.  In the case of Windows, the bottom-left corner.  I voted for the <span class="caps">KDE </span>icon purely because I prefer it aesthetically.</p>
<p><span class="caps">Q.8</span>	(CD Burning) The first three icons clearly have nothing to do with CDs.  The last two are clearly meant as images for a CD burning program. Unfortunately the 4th icon ( red CD with flames on ) does not resemble a CD closely because of the 3D raised border.  The fifth icon ( CD with flames underneath ) is probably the best, but it is hard to make out the outline of the CD against a white background.</p>
<p><span class="caps">Q.10</span>	 (Web Browsing Icon) I picked blue globe with no extras around  the edge.  I am really not keen on the  gear teeth around the Konqueror icon. I would prefer a larger globe, perhaps  with elements of the main <span class="caps">KDE </span>icon in the middle.</p>
<p><span class="caps">Q.11</span>	I would like to see distinct colors for the Back/Forwards arrows compared to the rest of the icons which are normally positioned next to them in web browsing applications.  Green is often used as a symbolic color for going to places.  It is easier to pick out an icon like this than the current Konqueror defaults which have six icons of identical color in the main toolbar.</p>
<p><span class="caps">Q.15. </span> It is difficult to make out the cells in the spreadsheet icon at the small size presented.</p>
<p><span class="caps">Q.17</span>	As per <span class="caps">Q.15, </span>it is difficult to identify the file-type icons at such a small size.  Perhaps better use of colour would help.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of the icons were nice, but here are my concerns:

1) None of the file icons really seemed to fit as a "spreadsheet".  The icon I chose was what I thought looked closet to a spreadsheet (but could also have been a plaintext file).

2) None of the options for the IM app really suggest instant messaging to me.  I chose the kopete icon only because I'm used to it.

3) Same for the web browser.

3) The shutdown-related icons are just horrible.  None of them (with the possible exception of the ( &#124; ) icon, which I chose as shutdown) clearly demonstrated their purpose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of the icons were nice, but here are my concerns:</p>
<p>1) None of the file icons really seemed to fit as a &#8220;spreadsheet&#8221;.  The icon I chose was what I thought looked closet to a spreadsheet (but could also have been a plaintext file).</p>
<p>2) None of the options for the IM app really suggest instant messaging to me.  I chose the kopete icon only because I&#8217;m used to it.</p>
<p>3) Same for the web browser.</p>
<p>3) The shutdown-related icons are just horrible.  None of them (with the possible exception of the ( | ) icon, which I chose as shutdown) clearly demonstrated their purpose</p>
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