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	<title>Comments on: Refreshing your filesystem</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Powervortex</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/16/refreshing-your-filesystem/#comment-6601</link>
		<dc:creator>Powervortex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the new style. It looks really clean and interesting.

However, I find it ironic that recently, Apple chose to make the new folder icons in OS X 10.5 Leopard with the frontal approach as well and Apple has been notorious about complaining about other people copying them.

Well, I have been amazed by Oxygen since the Oxygen website and its previews went online. I greatly look forward to the release of Oxygen and KDE4.

Keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the new style. It looks really clean and interesting.</p>
<p>However, I find it ironic that recently, Apple chose to make the new folder icons in OS X 10.5 Leopard with the frontal approach as well and Apple has been notorious about complaining about other people copying them.</p>
<p>Well, I have been amazed by Oxygen since the Oxygen website and its previews went online. I greatly look forward to the release of Oxygen and <span class="caps">KDE4.</span></p>
<p>Keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>By: rememberme</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/16/refreshing-your-filesystem/#comment-4195</link>
		<dc:creator>rememberme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally REALLY like the new style. It is so clean and lightweight.
I agree with others who say that the first 2006 try is nice as well, but I think, if you compare the two, the second try is much more stylish and modern.

I think it is worth it to have the other try as a folder set as well, but as default in an Desktop Environment there should be a professional icon theme.

So David, just continue your great work.

I dont think it's up to you, but having folders who display the type of content in it - like documents or a photograph - would be really cool, and would increase usability a lot.

The only problem I see is about the scaling...
It would be really hard to make it good-looking at all sizes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally <span class="caps">REALLY </span>like the new style. It is so clean and lightweight.<br />
I agree with others who say that the first 2006 try is nice as well, but I think, if you compare the two, the second try is much more stylish and modern.</p>
<p>I think it is worth it to have the other try as a folder set as well, but as default in an Desktop Environment there should be a professional icon theme.</p>
<p>So David, just continue your great work.</p>
<p>I dont think it&#8217;s up to you, but having folders who display the type of content in it - like documents or a photograph - would be really cool, and would increase usability a lot.</p>
<p>The only problem I see is about the scaling&#8230;<br />
It would be really hard to make it good-looking at all sizes.</p>
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		<title>By: bbbb</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way..... the shadow of the new folder icon is strange too imho</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way&#8230;.. the shadow of the new folder icon is strange too imho</p>
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		<title>By: bbbb</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/16/refreshing-your-filesystem/#comment-3474</link>
		<dc:creator>bbbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the old frontal-view folder looks better for sure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the old frontal-view folder looks better for sure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jakub Steiner</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/16/refreshing-your-filesystem/#comment-3206</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakub Steiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with transparent folders is that they can become confusing in showing either being empty when a directory actually contains items, or full of documents when the dir is empty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with transparent folders is that they can become confusing in showing either being empty when a directory actually contains items, or full of documents when the dir is empty.</p>
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		<title>By: gandalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>gandalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... david. I feel very mixed feelings about this.
And not because I don't like the new approach. Because I enjoy the older ones so much!

In my opinion, latter from 2005 and former from 2006  are the best. Really. Let me try to explain why:

1) I don't care if it's frontal or not. I judge the style, the recognition. It could be even flipped downside if it'll suite my needs :)
2) The former 2006  looks extremely polished, stylish, it was amazingly easy to read what's inside - almost perfect :)

You put three points for the new one:

1) It's easier to read when it's small. So F* what? I know that designers tends to think that smaller is always better, but users not. Look at the Dolphin, Vista, Mac OS X. Part of the "coolness" effect is because there are BIG icons that looks GOOD. I will see the small icons a lot of times, agree, but I'll also sometimes see it as 64x64 or 128x128. What then? The new approach doesn't look that good in big scale. Sorry. Maybe you should think about LOD (level of details)? In small mode present simplified icon, in big mode more detailed, polished one (with blends, shadows, sheet of paper inside, etc.)?
2) It's light - I, as a user, really don't care if it's 206 kb or 20 kb. Please, don't use it as a pros ;p
3) You must take a look at it in real life. I did. It's ok. But it doesn't solve any of concerns I brought.

Another thing is that I really would love to be sure that the new icon will change depending on the content of the folder. It should have picture if it's a folder with pics, it should contain video if the folder does, it should contain docs if the folder does.

It would be extremely sweet if it could contain more sheets if the folder contains a lot of documents, and just a single if there's less than 10 documents inside (to indicate if the folder is stuffed or not). In case it has mixed content it could indicate it by small boxes of types of documents that are inside flowing inside the icon.

I really dream of the dynamic icons worls where the icon can represent a lot more data about what's inside the dir, or what's the status of the document (opened, playable, progress of download, etc.) and I think that your new icons has potential, but doesn't exploit it to the end.

Constructive ideas:

1) Maybe make the back of the folder less curved. It doesn't look that natural
2) Consider re-adding the cut on the top-left corner of the front. It made it easier for me to recognize that it's a folder. As many others I can say that IMHO it doesn't look like a folder for newbies. More - it doesn't look like anything.
3) Please, rethink the idea of adding back the sheet. Or keep it like that for an empty folder, and add a sheet if there are docs inside. That would be actually best for me :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; david. I feel very mixed feelings about this.<br />
And not because I don&#8217;t like the new approach. Because I enjoy the older ones so much!</p>
<p>In my opinion, latter from 2005 and former from 2006  are the best. Really. Let me try to explain why:</p>
<p>1) I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s frontal or not. I judge the style, the recognition. It could be even flipped downside if it&#8217;ll suite my needs :)<br />
2) The former 2006  looks extremely polished, stylish, it was amazingly easy to read what&#8217;s inside - almost perfect :)</p>
<p>You put three points for the new one:</p>
<p>1) It&#8217;s easier to read when it&#8217;s small. So F* what? I know that designers tends to think that smaller is always better, but users not. Look at the Dolphin, Vista, Mac OS X. Part of the &#8220;coolness&#8221; effect is because there are <span class="caps">BIG </span>icons that looks <span class="caps">GOOD.</span> I will see the small icons a lot of times, agree, but I&#8217;ll also sometimes see it as 64&#215;64 or 128&#215;128. What then? The new approach doesn&#8217;t look that good in big scale. Sorry. Maybe you should think about <span class="caps">LOD </span>(level of details)? In small mode present simplified icon, in big mode more detailed, polished one (with blends, shadows, sheet of paper inside, etc.)?<br />
2) It&#8217;s light - I, as a user, really don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s 206 kb or 20 kb. Please, don&#8217;t use it as a pros ;p<br />
3) You must take a look at it in real life. I did. It&#8217;s ok. But it doesn&#8217;t solve any of concerns I brought.</p>
<p>Another thing is that I really would love to be sure that the new icon will change depending on the content of the folder. It should have picture if it&#8217;s a folder with pics, it should contain video if the folder does, it should contain docs if the folder does.</p>
<p>It would be extremely sweet if it could contain more sheets if the folder contains a lot of documents, and just a single if there&#8217;s less than 10 documents inside (to indicate if the folder is stuffed or not). In case it has mixed content it could indicate it by small boxes of types of documents that are inside flowing inside the icon.</p>
<p>I really dream of the dynamic icons worls where the icon can represent a lot more data about what&#8217;s inside the dir, or what&#8217;s the status of the document (opened, playable, progress of download, etc.) and I think that your new icons has potential, but doesn&#8217;t exploit it to the end.</p>
<p>Constructive ideas:</p>
<p>1) Maybe make the back of the folder less curved. It doesn&#8217;t look that natural<br />
2) Consider re-adding the cut on the top-left corner of the front. It made it easier for me to recognize that it&#8217;s a folder. As many others I can say that <span class="caps">IMHO </span>it doesn&#8217;t look like a folder for newbies. More - it doesn&#8217;t look like anything.<br />
3) Please, rethink the idea of adding back the sheet. Or keep it like that for an empty folder, and add a sheet if there are docs inside. That would be actually best for me :D</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/16/refreshing-your-filesystem/#comment-2949</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@eu.mesmo

I can just say that you must try the icon theme.</description>
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<p>I can just say that you must try the icon theme.</p>
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		<title>By: eu.mesmo</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/16/refreshing-your-filesystem/#comment-2941</link>
		<dc:creator>eu.mesmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to say that, but this folder icon appears more like a transparent buck with something inside. Is too dull, boring, there is no detail and the angle is wrong (and the front part is missing the "flap" of the previous versions).

Please don't repeat the Keramik fiasco again. A end user interact with the UI, and don't matter if KDE 4 have lots of wonderful technologies under the hood, if it's look bad a lot of people will not use it.

Please don't bash me, I'm just worried about the directions you are taking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to say that, but this folder icon appears more like a transparent buck with something inside. Is too dull, boring, there is no detail and the angle is wrong (and the front part is missing the &#8220;flap&#8221; of the previous versions).</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t repeat the Keramik fiasco again. A end user interact with the <span class="caps">UI, </span>and don&#8217;t matter if <span class="caps">KDE</span> 4 have lots of wonderful technologies under the hood, if it&#8217;s look bad a lot of people will not use it.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t bash me, I&#8217;m just worried about the directions you are taking.</p>
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		<title>By: lamppost</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/16/refreshing-your-filesystem/#comment-2925</link>
		<dc:creator>lamppost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the new iconset but please make a version with a sheet inside too.Thanks for your great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the new iconset but please make a version with a sheet inside too.Thanks for your great work!</p>
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		<title>By: Folder icon name and location at davigno</title>
		<link>http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/2007/04/16/refreshing-your-filesystem/#comment-2921</link>
		<dc:creator>Folder icon name and location at davigno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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